The King of RoboRumble@Home:
All the people that had the great pleasure to stay at the top in the 1v1 general rankings.
|From||Scoring||To||Scoring||The King(s)||Kingīs Bot||Kingīs Flag|
|2004-09-23||2074.03||2004-09-25||2073.98||PEZ & Axe||SilverFist|
|2004-09-25||2080.95||2004-09-29||2078.13||PEZ & Axe & Vic||SilverFistWT|
I am putting that table above because I think that is important to maintain a register of (maybe liking to see my name up there influenced a little :) ).
The problem is that i am not sure if there was anyone before Paul...
Also the dates have to be filled in...
Please help to fill-in and correct that table! -- Axe
Welcome to the hall King Vic! -- PEZ
SilverFistWT got pulled as PEZ and Axe agreed it would, but it would still be the top bot if it was there... Is PEZ king now or does he have to beat SilverFistWT's old rating (2080.95) first? Either way, congrats on a very strong bot --David Alves
When a King steps down from the throne volontarily the succession is made immediately of course. =) -- PEZ
That was the agreement... No need to proof that bot_2 + other_bot = bot_1... Congrats, PEZ! -- Axe
Actually what it proves is that bot_1 + other_bot = bot_1. ... Thanks Axe! You'll let me have the throne a while, won't you? =) -- PEZ
I won't, not if I can help it. ;-) --David Alves
Congratulations Mue! --David Alves
Cool done, Congratulations Mue! --iiley
Yes, very well done. But I don't think I'm dethroned just yet. I shouldn't have to leave my best version in place when I try a new one, should I? -- PEZ
Itīs dangerous to a King to leave his seat even to sleep in these days of revolution, aint? :) -- Axe
Indeed. But now I'll never sleep again. =) And I'll keep leaving my best CC in the game while testing new ones until this issue is decided upon. It'll look silly in the rankings though... -- PEZ
I think kings in the past (Paul, ABC and Jam) have all done their testing offline. I don't think entering 2 bots is ok. But I don't really have a good answer... Maybe in the new RR@H server I can allow "test bots" to be uploaded which wouldn't compete for the crown and wouldn't affect other bots ratings? --David Alves
I think that it should be allowed only to the king to have two versions listed in ranking. Simple and easy... -- Axe
I don't like giving the king special priveleges... How about you have to be #1 for a full day to get crowned? Then the king has 24 hours to pull his test bot and replace it with the previous one if the test bot doesn't work out. --David Alves
I agree that special privileges for the king would be wrong. I'm suggesting we use common sense. It's known that I publish new versions of my bots very often, testing only one small change at a time. (Only a bit slower in the release pace the past days because I've been working with the wiki and rr@h servers.) CC .05 rates around 2072. So crowning Mue just because I tested a small thing is strange. I for one wouldn't want to be crowned if I just happened to stand #1 when Mue or Axe or ABC or whoever is king at the moment release a test bot that rates a little lower than their best version.
Having to wait a full day to be crowned would be painful. I would propose that if a contender steps forward that can fight for the crown (like get a rating of 2071+ at the moment) then whoever notices that replaces the king's bot with the best known version to get the question settled.
In this particular case it would have been unecessary because CC .05 and Ascendant 0.9.1 were both on the Ranking table before I released my test bot.
Sorry, I thought 2071 was before the big crash... I thought Ascendant was scoring higher than CC had ever scored in the post-crash ratings. You're right, in that case it doesn't make much sense to crown Ascendant. I took Ascendant off the list. Maybe if I spent more time looking at the bot ratings instead of looking at how many battles each person has submitted... ;-) --David Alves
All hail king Mue! --David Alves
It seems like the latest version(s) of CC ties Ascendant. This is a snapshot from now:
How about we have two kings while CC, Ascendant or some other bots improves the current high mark?
Sure, that or use the PL score. --Pulsar
Don't you think that having "two kings for this kingdom" is the same as having "two captains on a boat"? A community can't be ruled by two kings. "The people" will stand either behind the one or the other, and this community will go under in a civil war. I foresee DOOM.
No, i think this is a time without kings. These are ages in chaos, a community in turmoil. Order will only reappear with the rise of a true new king... --Loki
As usual, PEZ have more faith in me then myself... But now talking seriously, i think that the King should be one bot. My opinion is that Ascendant have to be clearly defeated to lose the crown... It's currently a draw between CC & A, but A haven't (yet) be defeated... -- Axe
I think a King that can't clearly defend its throne is in question. The situation is more like chaos than order. -- PEZ
In boxing, for example, a champion only loses his belt if he is defeated. In case of a draw, the defender stays with the belt... -- Axe
But in Monarchies? You're a layman historian, you know the answer. =) -- PEZ
Let the community vote... This is a issue that concerns to all robocoders. Raise a voting... -- Axe
there are now three heirs to the throne. The chaos is complete! --Loki
Well, the Roman empire lasted quite a while even though it now and then was a Triumvirate. Of course, you have to watch your back even better if you're a member. =) -- PEZ
2071! If it hold a bit longer I may soon be claiming a 4th entry in that table afterall... ;) -- ABC
Yay! It looks very promising indeed. -- PEZ
Thanks! And undefeated PL King too (with some very close calls), it's always a thrill. :) -- ABC
I'm suing our new king for abuse, he beat the living crap out of Phoenix. :-( --David Alves
Added Voidious, Congratulations!! --Krabb
Thanks, Krabb. And congratulations to Mue for having, by a wide margin, the longest continuous reign as King in the history of the RoboRumble! I'm sure he'll hold the throne again one day if he really wants to... -- Voidious
I think its fairly decided now, and I put the first version that scored more than 3 points over Dookious as the 'turning' point, 1.0.17NVBW. Maybe this will prompt Voidious to do some more coding? =) - Skilgannon