Sorry if I sounded rude earlier there. The thing is, if you keep using Thorn's code I'm going to have to make it closed source to keep it competitive. Why don't you make up your own type of mode switching, random movement, and distancing? Or try new segmentation for the guess factor gun? It's OK if your bot isn't the best out there. I would rather see you write something new instead of using Thorn’s code just because it’s good. Thorn's gun and movement are both strong, but they're the result of hours of work and over a year of experience. And by no means do I think Thorn is using the "best" possible gun and movement, maybe you could write something better yourself. You obviously have a talent for robocode, and I bet you could work your way up to the top without using so much of my code. – Kev |
I'm getting a little suspicious that Lothrik is using code directly taken from my bot Thorn.
I don't mind you using my code (although I prefer no copy-pasting), as long as you give credit and make your bot open source. See the RWPCL for the details of code release. Sorry if I sound upset, but its frustrating to see people take advantage of OpenSource bots. -- Kev
Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression of myself Kev, I don't want any bad karma around here: I just never paid attention to the licensing (or even read it, at all), I'll go and release the source with 1.05. I definitely took more than a few 'pointers' from several bots. I always seem to drift towards that in a codesize limited environment, especially when there's a better way to do something already waiting around the corner. -- MaXiMiUS
I'm very impressed that you've managed to squeeze a couple more points out of Thorn. However, Lothrik looks just like that: another version of Thorn. It isn't even a big update. The only difference I see in side by side comparison is a change in the ram detection. Everything else looks copy-pasted, and I can't even tell how Raiko and GFTargetingBot influenced it. I spent a lot of work building Thorn from the ground up, and I think its much more rewarding and educational if you create something original. It's very frustrating to see you jump ahead of all that time and effort by altering my code a little. I would appreciate it if you at least released it under the wiki package, since I think I wrote more of Lothrik than you did. You might want to look at the Krillr/DoctorWho page for a similar situation. -- Kev
If I can push him into The2000Club/Micro, I'd rather not put him under the wiki package (being quite the accomplishment), otherwise I think I'll do that. I'm trying to make the code as different as possible from your original code, and it was not originally based on your code -- it just happens that you have a very good way of doing it in 749 bytes -- I started off of code from Raiko and GFTargetingBot, before I even saw Thorn, which is how they influenced it. They're how I began to understand the relevant concepts. -- MaXiMiUS
Sorry if I sounded rude earlier there. The thing is, if you keep using Thorn's code I'm going to have to make it closed source to keep it competitive. Why don't you make up your own type of mode switching, random movement, and distancing? Or try new segmentation for the guess factor gun? It's OK if your bot isn't the best out there. I would rather see you write something new instead of using Thorn’s code just because it’s good. Thorn's gun and movement are both strong, but they're the result of hours of work and over a year of experience. And by no means do I think Thorn is using the "best" possible gun and movement, maybe you could write something better yourself. You obviously have a talent for robocode, and I bet you could work your way up to the top without using so much of my code. – Kev